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Porkins Policy Radio episode 93 What Ever Happened to Egypt with Caram Kapp

Today I am joined by friend of the show Caram Kapp. Caram was last on episode 42 The Homeland Hackers, and returns to discuss the Egyptian uprising six years later. We start off by discussing the basics of the uprising and some of the behind the scenes actors. Caram explains his own experiences as an Egyptian, and as someone who was there on the ground around this time. We touch on the rumors of Western manipulation and how some of these allegations have overshadowed the real life grievances of the Egyptian populace and their reasons for wanting to get rid of Mubarak. Caram and I then move onto the two most important actors of the revolution (The Muslim Brotherhood and the Army) and how they became the ultimate arbiters of the revolution. Caram talks about his time in Cairo just after Brotherhood leader Muhammad Morsi was elected. Caram describes the parallels between Morsi and his brief tenure as president to that of Donald Trump. We talk about similarities in both personality and demeanor, as well as the ways in which Morsi represented “change” and ran on a campaign of making “Egypt Great Again.” Caram and I also discuss the notion that Morsi or those around him were well aware of the realities and influence of the Egyptian military, and understood that they may have been used as a stopgap to put the military back in place.

We expand on this more in the second hour exploring other parallels between Trump, Morsi, and current Egyptian President al-Sisi. Caram and I look at the ways in which al-Sisi and Trump have managed to normalize the military and the police, even when engaging in extreme behavior. Later Caram and I look at some of the recent geopolitical developments in Egypt and how they mirror actions here in the US. We look at the escalating tensions between Sudan and Egypt over the contested Halayeb Triangle and how this mimics Trump’s rhetoric against Mexico. Caram and I also discuss the current state of Egyptian media which like the revolution has returned right back to where it started. Caram and I finish off by looking at where Egypt may be headed and why it has lost influence within the Arab world, and has become one of the forgotten aspects of the Arab Spring.

Download PPR episode 93

Show Notes:

@dot_seekay

Caramblogage

Walls of Freedom

Spring Lessons

PPR episode 42 The Homeland Hackers

Egypt sentences Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed al-Badie to 25 years in prison

Court postpones retrial of Morsi, MB leaders to May 17

New photo of Mubarak from inside his residence in Helioplis

Despite talk of good relations, security concerns darken Egypt-Sudan ties

Egyptian troops shoot at Sudanese miners near borders: offical

Under the radar: Is this the stage for Africa’s next war?

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Porkins Policy Radio episode 42 The Homeland Hackers

Today Tom and I spoke to the now world famous “Homeland Hackers.” Heba Amin, Don Karl, and Caram Kapp sat down with us to discuss how they got the opportunity to work on the show and how they subverted it by filling the set with Arabic graffiti saying, among other things, “Homeland is racist” “Homeland is not a show” and of course our personal favorite, “Homeland is a watermelon.” We began the conversation by discussing how in fact they were chosen by the set designer to work on episode 2 of season 5.  The artists described how the production did little to no research into what would be in a Syrian refugee camp in Lebanon, and essentially left them to their own devices once on set.  Later we explored the show it self and how the propaganda with in Homeland has reached new levels of manipulation and racism.  All three artists talked about how Arab’s and Arabic are used as mere window dressing and one dimensional plot devices for the show’s propaganda.  Later we discussed the aftermath of the hack, and the typical media response; Muslim artist activists show the softer side of Islam.  We also talk about how Laura Poitras and The Intercept got involved after the hack.  As we wrapped up the discussion we got the seal of approval from Heba, Caram, and Don when we asked them about our podcast.  In the outro section I talk about how Tom and I do not believe the rather crazy claims that this is some sort of CIA disinfo/ psy-op.

I have to say this was one of the most enjoyable and fascinating interviews I have conducted.  Homeland is a Watermelon.

Download PPR episode 42

Show Notes:

“Arabian Street Artists” Bomb Homeland: Why we hacked an award-winning series

Homeland Hack News Coverage

 

Heba Amin

@HebaAmin

 

Don Karl

@Donrok

 

Caram Kapp

@Dot_Seekay

 

Music:

Mr. Flagio – Take a Chance

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