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Porkins Policy Radio episode 110 Pat McKenna on OJ’s parole, bloody socks, and Bruno Magli shoes

Legendary private investigator Pat McKenna joins me once again to discuss our favorite topic, the OJ Simpson trial. We start off by discussing OJ’s imminent release from Lovelock Prison on parole. Pat and I address several of the misconceptions and falsehoods when it comes OJ’s convictions for armed robbery and kidnapping. Then Pat and I move onto the media’s barrage of bogus and misleading stories related to OJ and his release on parole. We talk about the the Goldman families PR machine pushing the idea that Justin and Sydney are receiving money from OJ for real estate deals, and how this is based on nothing.

Later Pat and I answer and address several questions from UK listener Simon. First we tackle Marcia Clark’s erroneous statement that Fuhrman couldn’t have framed OJ because he wouldn’t have know OJ had no alibi. We then dive into Clark’s statements on EDTA being found in your blood naturally and explain how this is a gross miss-characterization of the true facts. Pat and I then discuss the blood evidence on the socks and back gate. We talk about not only that EDTA was found on those samples, but explore how these are two are part of the larger plot by the police to frame OJ Simpson. Pat and I finish off by tackling one of the most asked questions by OJ detractors: What about the Bruno Magli shoes? We break down the major problems with the alleged photo’s, how they came into possession of Dan Petrocelli, and the truth over whether or not OJ actually owned them. Pat and I also talk about how the general public has convinced themselves of certain “facts” in the case even when they turn out to be totally false.

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Show Notes:

Testimony of FBI Special Agent Roger Martz

The photo that sent OJ spiraling

The True Story Behind O.J. Simpson’s Infamous Shoes From the Trial

Porkins Policy Radio episode 98 Pat McKenna on OJ Simpson Timeline and Listener Questions

Pat McKenna joins us again for another in-depth discussion of the OJ Simpson trial and his first hand experiences investigating it. We begin by focusing on one of the most basic but largely overlooked aspects of the case: the timeline. Pat and I dissect the numerous problems with the prosecutions time line of events. Aside from their reliance on questionable characters like screenwriter Pablo Fenjeves, Pat and I break down how no one, let alone OJ could have physically committed these murders in the time allotted by the prosecution. Pat demonstrates that OJ would have had to have murdered both Ron and Nicole, driven home, banged on Kato’s air conditioner, dropped the glove, washed off all the blood, changed clothes, and gotten in the limo in roughly 22-25 minutes. Pat and I talk about the ways in which the prosecution leaned on and pressured witness to present their testimony in such a way as to fit into this rushed timeline. Pat and I discuss the fact that OJ and Kato went and around back to investigate the mysterious three thumps and at no point does either one of them see a glove or move a glove. We also focus on how the prosecution’s version of events often leads one to posit that there was a larger conspiracy in which one or more person’s helped OJ in the murder. Pat and I also talk about the need to approach the timeline in a logical manner.

In the second hour Pat and I discuss Brian Heiss’ timeline and present evidence that logically has the murders taking place much later than the 10:15pm clock that the prosecution claimed. We talk about Ron’s movements on the night on June 12, and show how he could not have left his house until 10:30pm at the earliest. Pat demonstrates how this would have Ron arriving at Nicole’s closer to 10:36 which lines up with ear witness Denise Pilnak. Pat and I also talk about the physical act of the murders which by all accounts was much longer than the prosecution wanted to admit. Pat also answers several listener questions including: who was the intended target, how do Brett Cantor and Michael Nigg’s murders fit in, the alleged break in of Jennifer Ameli’s office. Pat also talks about meeting with Anthony Pellicano who had been hired by Mark Fuhrman to acquire the infamous Fuhrman tapes, and the role that the now incarcerated PI played in the trial.

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Show Notes:

Timeline OJ, Nicole and Ron on June 12, 1994

Map of Rockingham

OJ Simpson: The Interview 1996

OJ Simpson house tour: side area and Alan Park testimony

Porkins Policy Radio episode 95 Inside the OJ Simpson Case with Private Investigator Pat McKenna

Legendary private investigator Pat McKenna joins me today to discuss his work on the OJ Simpson trial. We begin by discussing Pat’s initial work on the case which took him to Chicago. Pat talks about his three weeks there interviewing numerous witnesses who saw OJ. Pat explains how like most people he assumed that the media was right and OJ was guilty. Yet as his investigation unfolded, interviewing people such as the staff at the hotel near the O’Hare airport, to people on the plane, Pat began to come to the realization that OJ was not the murder. Pat points out some of the key pieces of evidence he discovered there which point towards someone other than OJ being the killer. We discuss how OJ signed numerous autographs yet no one remembers him as having cut up and bloody hands. Pat also talks about the fact that OJ only left his hotel room after he was told of his ex-wifes murder, which casts doubt on the theory that he left to bury evidence. Pat also talks about Chicago PD’s assertion that the LAPD began screwing up evidence the moment they received it from Chicago. Next we move onto Mark Fuhrman, his racist past and the numerous problems with his timeline of events on the night in question. Pat explains his own investigation into Fuhrman’s background and lays out how Fuhrman planted the gloves. Pat also breaks down the impossibility of the prosecutions timeline of events that night.

In the second hour we take a look at one one the most overlooked but important witnesses in the case, Tom Lange, the last person to have seen Nicole Simpson alive. We explore both the original police report and Lange’s own personal notes on what he saw the night of June 12, 1994. Pat explains how Lange saw Nicole talking with two men a few minutes after 10pm who were driving a White Ford 350 truck. Pat talks about the credibility of Lange and why his story should be trusted, as well as why the LAPD and prosecution never followed up with him. We also point out some of the discrepancies between the police report and what Lange actually stated he saw that night. Later we talk a look at other eye and ear witnesses from that night and show how nearly all of them contradict the prosecutions own timeline. Pat also touches on the ways in which the prosecution went after these witnesses and trotted out the most untrustworthy individuals to prop up their increasingly flimsy case. Pat also breaks down the numerous issues with the infamous bloody socks. Pat and I also touch on the allegations that drugs played a part in the murder.

Pat will be joining me again very soon so let me know if you have any questions you would like us to discuss.

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Porkins Policy Radio episode 61 21 years later: The Legacy of the OJ Simpson with Stephen Singular

Today we kick-start our series of shows focusing on the 21st anniversary of the OJ trial by talking with frequent guest Stephen Singular. Stephen and I begin by discussing his experiences working on the trial. We then move on to the impact that this has had on society at large. We discuss the impact that the media has had on conditioning us to have a particular emotional response to the OJ Simpson trial and it’s outcome. Stephen explains his theories as to why so many Americans are willing to disregard the truth of the murder, even when the evidence is right there in front of them, for the security of believing that OJ is guilty. We explore the impact the case has had 21 years after the fact on the psyche of the American public and their views on racial discrimination by police. We explore how the media has conditioned us to only want the same tired old theories repeated to us over and over again. Stephen also discusses how we can begin to grow as a nation by understanding the reality of what went on on June 13th 1994. We place particular emphasis on how we as a nation respond to racial discrimination by law enforcement and the criminal justice system. As always Stephen emphasizes the importance of questioning the reality we are being fed, and striving to understand what the truth is.

In the final half hour I discuss some of my own feelings about the impact the case has had on America. I talk about the ways in which the murder and trial have normalized our views on police violence and law enforcement. I explain how the system has only gotten worse and more oppressive since the trial ended. I attempt to illustrate how the political reactions that we see, from the presidential candidates to Black Lives Matter, are all symptoms of the OJ Simpson case.

This is the first of several episodes exploring the impact of the case and possibilities for solving it. Let me know if you have any questions you would like answered in future episodes.

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Show Notes:

PPR ep. 47 Legacy of Deception: Stephen Singular on the OJ Simpson Murder Trial

PPR ep. 49 Conspiracy of Misperception: Stephen Singular on the OJ Simpson trial

PPR Bonus podcast: Stephen Singular on updated edition of Legacy of Deception

Updated Kindle edition of Legacy of Deception: An Investigation of Mark Fuhrman and Racism in the LAPD

Updated Kindle edition of Presumed Guilty: An Investigation of JonBenet Ramsey Case, the Media, and the Culture of Pornography

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