Filmmaker Brian Heiss and legendary private investigator Pat McKenna joined me for one final on the OJ Simpson case and trial. We talked mainly about the scientific side of the investigation. We talked about the LAPD’s Scientific Investigation Division which was in charge of all of the DNA evidence. Brian touched on the SID’s incredibly unprofessional and sloppy techniques. We talked about the incredibly high crime rate at the time in LA and the intense pressure the SID was under to deliver results. Pat and Brian focused on criminalists Dennis Fung, Collin Yamauchi, Andrea Mazzola, and Michelle Kessler. We talked about how they routinely contaminated and degraded key pieces of DNA evidence from the beginning of the investigation on June 13, 1994. We also talked about the larger impact that the SID had on the thousands of people sent to jail based on their erroneous tests. Later we talked about the the state of the criminal justice system and the long road ahead towards real reform.
Good friend Brian Heiss of OJSimpson.co joins us once again for a wide ranging discussion. We start by talking about a bizarre revelation in Rose McGowan’s new book that she dated Ronald Goldman’s friend Brett Cantor. In her new book Brave McGowan talks about dating Brett Cantor when she was 19 years old. Brian talks about Brett Cantor and his nightclub the Dragonfly. A club that Goldman worked at as a party promoter, and a place that Nicole Simpson frequented. We discuss Cantor’s murder and the similarities it has with the murder of Nicole and Ronald. We also touch on the Michael Nigg murder, and the connections the three of those have with another murder of one of OJ’s friends down in Florida just before the Bundy murders took place. Brian and I also discuss why McGowan has not revealed this fact until now, the MeToo movement she helped kick start, and why we hope she will pursue her boyfriends killers. We then move on to a discussion of the popular blind item gossip site Crazy Days and Nights. We talk about how the site and it’s owner “Enty” has been way ahead of many important Hollywood stories including Harvey Weinstein. Brian and I focus on Enty’s long time reporting of Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes. We talk about some recent blind items talking about Epstein flying in porn stars to his private Island for orgies involving various arms traffickers. We discuss how much of Enty’s reports are to be trusted, and what Epstein appears to be up to. We also briefly touch on Bryan Singer and his alleged pedophilia.
In the second hour Brian and I discuss the murder of Gianni Versace by Andrew Cunanan, and the new FX show about the murder. Brian gives us an overview of Cunanan and his three month murder spree in 1997. Brian talks about Cunanan’s past, including his methamphetamine abuse and love of S&M. We talk about his brutal murder of Lee Miglin and some of the strange discrepancies and possible cover up by the Chicago police in that killing. Later Brian moves onto Cunanan when he arrived in Miami and killed Versace in broad daylight, and then his suicide on the house boat of Torsten Reineck. Brian discusses Reineck’s shady past as the King of Gay Bathhouses in Las Vegas and Miami, his connections to drug traffickers and the German equivalent of the DEA. Brian also lays out the theory that Reineck and Cunanan not only knew each other, but that Reinick may have hired him to kill Versace. Brian also talks about the fact that notion that Reinick may have promised to help Cunanan flee the county after the murder, possibly bringing him to his private island “Sealand” of the coast of the United Kingdom.
Today we are joined by private investigator Pat McKenna and legendary attorney F Lee Bailey for a discussion of OJ and the criminal justice system. We begin by discussing some of the recent media reports about OJ that have come out in the tabloid press. The three of us address these bogus claims that OJ was thrown out of the Cosmopolitanism hotel in Las Vegas. Lee also tells us about his background in the Marine Corp and how he became one of the most famous trial lawyers. We then move onto some new research by Brian Heiss looking at a forgery in Nicole Simpson’s dairy. We discuss how Fred Goldman helped lobby California’s legislature to allow the diary and the forgery into the civil trial. Lee gives us his legal perspective about the civil trial and the ways in which it was conducted. He talks about the numerous instances in which false information was introduced as evidence, and how this has convinced many that the civil trial was the “good trial.” We explore how the media treated the criminal jury and how this influenced the civil juries verdict. Later Lee and Pat discuss the criminal trial itself. Lee talks about his cross examination of Mark Fuhrman. He talks about the moment he knew he had caught Fuhrman in his own web of lies. Pat and Lee also touch on how Judge Ito wouldn’t allow several witnesses who were willing to testify that Fuhrman was a virulent racist.
In the second hour Lee and Pat discuss their book project which deals with both OJ’s criminal and civil trials. They talk about how their book will differ from the plethora of OJ related books. Lee in particular touches on several important aspects that will be included in the book that were not widely know during the trial. Lee and Pat discuss the continued importance of truly understanding this case, and their hopes for the future generation. Lee also talks about his own theory as to the motive of the murders: a drug killing that meant to target Faye Resnick. Later Pat and Lee discuss the school they have founded for teaching investigative skills. Lee talks about the need for teaching trial lawyers how to turn facts into evidence, and how many lawyers are not fully equipped to carry out investigations. Pat talks about a similar problem facing private investigator’s and what he will be teaching. We also talk about the role that Hollywood has played in crafting our understanding of criminal justice. Lee talks about the problem that show’s like CSI have had on the criminal justice system. We round out the show by talking about some of the problems with forensic evidence. We talk about things like shoe print analysis and how that played a role with OJ and the infamous Bruno Magli shoes. We also touch on the problems with hair and fiber analysis.
Legendary private investigator Pat McKenna joins me today to discuss his work on the OJ Simpson trial. We begin by discussing Pat’s initial work on the case which took him to Chicago. Pat talks about his three weeks there interviewing numerous witnesses who saw OJ. Pat explains how like most people he assumed that the media was right and OJ was guilty. Yet as his investigation unfolded, interviewing people such as the staff at the hotel near the O’Hare airport, to people on the plane, Pat began to come to the realization that OJ was not the murder. Pat points out some of the key pieces of evidence he discovered there which point towards someone other than OJ being the killer. We discuss how OJ signed numerous autographs yet no one remembers him as having cut up and bloody hands. Pat also talks about the fact that OJ only left his hotel room after he was told of his ex-wifes murder, which casts doubt on the theory that he left to bury evidence. Pat also talks about Chicago PD’s assertion that the LAPD began screwing up evidence the moment they received it from Chicago. Next we move onto Mark Fuhrman, his racist past and the numerous problems with his timeline of events on the night in question. Pat explains his own investigation into Fuhrman’s background and lays out how Fuhrman planted the gloves. Pat also breaks down the impossibility of the prosecutions timeline of events that night.
In the second hour we take a look at one one the most overlooked but important witnesses in the case, Tom Lange, the last person to have seen Nicole Simpson alive. We explore both the original police report and Lange’s own personal notes on what he saw the night of June 12, 1994. Pat explains how Lange saw Nicole talking with two men a few minutes after 10pm who were driving a White Ford 350 truck. Pat talks about the credibility of Lange and why his story should be trusted, as well as why the LAPD and prosecution never followed up with him. We also point out some of the discrepancies between the police report and what Lange actually stated he saw that night. Later we talk a look at other eye and ear witnesses from that night and show how nearly all of them contradict the prosecutions own timeline. Pat also touches on the ways in which the prosecution went after these witnesses and trotted out the most untrustworthy individuals to prop up their increasingly flimsy case. Pat also breaks down the numerous issues with the infamous bloody socks. Pat and I also touch on the allegations that drugs played a part in the murder.
Pat will be joining me again very soon so let me know if you have any questions you would like us to discuss.
Today we continue our series looking at the 21st anniversary of the OJ Simpson trial with return guests Brian Heiss and Ed Opperman. The three of us explore a wide variety of theories surrounding the case. We begin by looking at some of the false theories put out again and again by the media such as, Jason Simpson or Glenn Rogers as the killer. Next we move onto the issue of Joey Ippolito being behind the murder and his connections to all of the principle and secondary persons involved in the case. Brian explains some of his recent research into OJ friend Donald Soffer his connection to the Bronco chase, and to notorious drug trafficker Joey Ippolito. The three of us discuss what the Bronco chase may have really been about, and how this is still one of the least understood events of the case. Later we explore the role of celebrity culture in creating many of the personalities surrounding the trial. We focus particularly on Faye Resnick’s rise to stardom in the aftermath of the murder of her best friend. The three of us also discuss the role that domestic abuse played in the trial and in the public’s conception of what transpired on June 12 1994. As we round out the discussion we pick a part some of the media’s favorite false facts, such as OJ stopping his arthritis medicine, and how these have made their way into the public’s mind. We also manage to mention Trump and his various connections to OJ Simpson.
Today we kick-start our series of shows focusing on the 21st anniversary of the OJ trial by talking with frequent guest Stephen Singular. Stephen and I begin by discussing his experiences working on the trial. We then move on to the impact that this has had on society at large. We discuss the impact that the media has had on conditioning us to have a particular emotional response to the OJ Simpson trial and it’s outcome. Stephen explains his theories as to why so many Americans are willing to disregard the truth of the murder, even when the evidence is right there in front of them, for the security of believing that OJ is guilty. We explore the impact the case has had 21 years after the fact on the psyche of the American public and their views on racial discrimination by police. We explore how the media has conditioned us to only want the same tired old theories repeated to us over and over again. Stephen also discusses how we can begin to grow as a nation by understanding the reality of what went on on June 13th 1994. We place particular emphasis on how we as a nation respond to racial discrimination by law enforcement and the criminal justice system. As always Stephen emphasizes the importance of questioning the reality we are being fed, and striving to understand what the truth is.
In the final half hour I discuss some of my own feelings about the impact the case has had on America. I talk about the ways in which the murder and trial have normalized our views on police violence and law enforcement. I explain how the system has only gotten worse and more oppressive since the trial ended. I attempt to illustrate how the political reactions that we see, from the presidential candidates to Black Lives Matter, are all symptoms of the OJ Simpson case.
This is the first of several episodes exploring the impact of the case and possibilities for solving it. Let me know if you have any questions you would like answered in future episodes.
Pearse Redmond of Porkins Policy Review joins the show. We discuss his monthly series Porkins Great Game and the series he does with the UK’s Tom Secker CIA and Hollywood. We talk about the CIA’s involvement in the entertainment industry and deleterious effects it has had on society. Later we talk about Pearse’s research into the OJ Simpson murder trial and the several interviews he conducted with journalist Stephen Singular who wrote the book Legacy of Deception: An Investigation of Mark Fuhrman and Racism in the L.A.P.D.
Today we are joined once again by our friend Stephen Singular to dive deeper into the OJ Simpson case. We begin by taking a closer look at Mark Fuhrman’s timeline in relation to his “discovery” of the infamous gloves. Stephen discusses a key piece of the puzzle: Fuhrman’s multiple trips to OJ’s Rockingham property on the night of the murders. We discuss how this was confirmed by Rosa Lopez’s testimony, but like so many key pieces of evidence, has been long forgotten.
Next we explore some revealing statements from Fuhrman such as his admission of seeing two gloves at the murder scene. Stephen discusses how the case essentially ended when Mark Fuhrman “found” the gloves. This stopped the LAPD from doing an actual investigation into what happened on June 12, 1994.
Next we move onto to the disappearing, reappearing blood evidence. Stephen and I look at when the blood was actually discovered inside OJ’s Bronco. We discuss how Fuhrman and others claim to have seen blood inside the Bronco, which prompted them to hop OJ’s fence without a warrant, and yet how several days later LAPD’s Kelly Muldorfer found that there was no blood inside the Bronco.
We again talk about Det. Vannatter carrying around not only OJ’s blood, but also that of Nicole and Ronald, for several hours. We also dive deeper into the question of how this all was orchestrated, focusing less on the possibility of a grand conspiracy and more on the possibility of several key people making a serious of devastating choices.
We round out the conversation by considering what the motive of this crime may truly have been. Stephen outlines how a real investigation would have uncovered the deep connections this case had to organized crime and drug trafficking. He also discusses how this case demonstrates the ease with which we can be manipulated as a society. And we touch on how this case set us up for many of the lies that we were later fed in the aftermath of events such as 9/11 and the Iraq War. Stephen also dissects how the rise of TV news and opinion talking heads has turned us into a society that no longer cares about truth and reality.
Update From Stephen Singular: “Because of the wide interest in the O.J. Simpson case generated by the FX series on the murders, we’ve had numerous requests to publish Stephen’s 1996 Legacy of Deception: An Investigation of Mark Fuhrman and Racism in the LAPD as an e-book. We are currently re-formatting it for this purpose and it should be available for purchase through this website within the next few weeks. The updated version will contain new information about important developments that followed the original publication of the book. Please go to Books on this site for more information about Legacy of Deception.”
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